The geocentric new Moon will occur Inshalla on (Thursday 14 October 2004), at
02:48 UT. On this day the program Moon Calculator by Dr.
Monzur Ahmed -according to Yallop criterion- showed that it is only possible to
see the crescent by optical aid from Central America and northern parts of South
America. And by naked eyes from central and south parts of South America and
major parts of the Pacific Ocean.
While on the next day (Friday 15 October 2004) the crescent should be visible
easily by naked eyes from most of the countries of the world.
According to the actual sighting of the crescent, the start of Ramadan should
be on Saturday 16 October 2004 in most of the countries of the world and on
Friday 15 October 2004 in the American continent.
- Results of seeing the crescent, and the first day of the month in different
countries will be added here Inshalla as we receive the reports from ICOP's
members. If you wish to be a member in ICOP, or to know more about it, kindly click here.
Saturday, 16 October 2004 AD falls in this year upon the first of the days of the blessed month Ramadan, because the geocentric conjunction of the month Ramadan 1425 AH will happen on Thursday, 14 October, at 2:48 am UT. On this day, a sighting of the crescent is impossible from every region of the Islamic world, even if a telescope be used. On the contrary, an easy sighting of the crescent by naked eyes can be expected on Friday, 15 October, from most of the countries of the Islamic world.
Concerning the situation of the moon at sunset on Thursday in some of the Arabic and Islamic cities: In the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur, the sun will set at 7:01 pm local time and the moon at 7:15 pm, i.e. the moon will be present in the sky only for a period of 14 minutes after sunset, and the moon-age at the moment of sunset will be 8 hours and 13 minutes. In the city Makka al-Mukarrama, the sun will set at 5:57 pm local time and the moon at 6:15 pm, i.e. the moon will stay only for a period of 18 minutes after sunset, and its age at the time of sunset will be 12 hours and 9 minutes. In the city `Amman, the sun will set at 5:11 pm local time and the moon at 5:26 pm, i.e. the moon will remain for a period of 16 minutes after sunset, and its age at the moment of sunset will be 12 hours and 22 minutes. In the Mauritanian capital, Nuakchott, the sun will set at 6:42 pm local time and the moon at 7:07 pm, i.e. the moon will stay only for a period of 25 minutes after sunset, and its age at the moment of sunset will be 15 hours and 54 minutes.
Those values are not sufficient to sight the crescent on Thursday from any region of the Islamic world, this state of the moon is still the phase of invisibility, it has not yet reached the phase of hilal (visible crescent) at sunset in all regions of the Islamic world. It is worth to mention that the possibility of a sighting of the crescent always increases the more one moves to the West. This is so because the moon-age, its time of remaining and its height above the horizon, and the measure of its illumination increase the more we move towards the West. This means that the regions of the Arabic West are the preferred regions of the Islamic world to sight the crescent. And if the sighting of the crescent is impossible on Thursday in the Arabic West, this certainly means that it is impossible from all regions of the Islamic world.
Concerning Friday, sighting of the crescent after sunset will be easily possible from most of the countries of the Islamic world. Because sighting of the crescent on Thursday is impossible from every region of the Islamic world, whereas its sighting on Friday is possible from most of the regions of the Islamic world, the beginning of the month Ramadan 1425 AH should be on Saturday, 16 October. But as there are some Islamic states that don’t use the sighting of the crescent as the condition to begin a hijric month, but content themselves with [the condition] “moonset after sunset”, and so in these countries the beginning of the month Ramadan will be on Friday, 15 October. Herewith the Arab Union for Astronomy and Space Sciences calls upon the population to search for the crescent of the month Ramadan on both of the days Thursday and Friday, and to report their results to the Union, because since five years the Union publishes every month the results of observation of the crescent, and this is done on the Internet at the address http://www.jas.org.jo/icop.html.
Kindly click here to read the
original AUASS statement.
Saudi declared that they will look for the crescent of Ramadan on Wednesday
13 October 2004 AD because this is the 29th day of Shaban, and the official
Saudi statement added that the first of Shaban was on Wednesday 15 September. We
wonder how could the crescent of Shaban be seen on Tuesday 14 September if the
topocentric conjunction in Mecca occurred after Sunset! The full AUASS comment can be
read here (Arabic Version).
Arab Union for Astronomy and Space Sciences (AUASS)
In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Search for the Crescent of the Month Ramadan on the Wrong Day
The Kingdom of Sa`udi-Arabia announced that they will search for the crescent of the blessed month Ramadan on Wednesday, 13 October 2004 AD, because in Sa`udi[-Arabia] this day will fall upon the 29th day of the month Sha`ban, and because the beginning of the month Sha`bân in Sa`udi[-Arabia] was on Wednesday, 15 September 2004 AD. But this implies that a sighting of the crescent of the month Sha`ban occurred in Sa`udi[-Arabia] on Tuesday, 14 September 2004 AD! We ask ourselves, how a sighting of the crescent could occur on this day in Sa`udi[-Arabia] when the conjunction happened after sunset? Concerning the city Makka al-Mukarrama, the sunset on Tuesday, 14 September 2004 AD was at 6:25 pm Sa`udi time, and the conjunction (new moon, or birth of the hilal) happened for the city Makka al-Mukarrama on this day at 6:48 pm Sa`udi time, i.e. the conjunction happened 23 minutes after sunset. Consequently, a sighting of the crescent of the month Sha`ban on Tuesday, 14 September 2004 AD from Sa`udi[-Arabia] was absolutely impossible, because the conjunction happened after sunset.
It looks like the responsible persons regard Wednesday as the first of the days of the month Sha`ban because they apply the moment of the [geocentric] conjunction for the Earth’s centre, instead [of the moment of the topocentric conjunction] for the city Makka al-Mukarrama! The moment of geocentric conjunction is what the Westerners use for their calculations, regarding their lack of interest in sighting the crescent, and for the month Sha`ban it happened at 5:29 pm Sa`udi time.
The definition of the correct start of the month Sha`ban is necessary because the definition of the start of the blessed month Ramadan is based upon it. Based on the current Sa`udi calendar, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 AD is the 29th day of the month Sha`ban, consequently it is the day of searching, and if a sighting of the crescent on Wednesday is not confirmed, Thursday, 14 October 2004 AD will be the 30th day of the month Sha`ban. Based upon this, the month Ramadân will start automatically on Friday, 15 October 2004 AD! But in reality, sighting of the crescent will be impossible on Thursday from all regions of the Islamic world! If the start of the month Sha`ban was correct, i.e. on Thursday, 16 September 2004 AD, then Thursday, 14 October 2004 AD would be the 29th day of the month Sha`ban, and because sighting of the crescent on Thursday is impossible despite moonset after sunset and a moon-age of about 12 hours, one may assume that Friday is the final [day] of the month Sha`ban, and Saturday, 16 October 2004 AD is the first of the days of the blessed month Ramadan.
Unfortunately, we in our Islamic states still suffer from the error in defining the start of the hijric months, as a result of lack of interest of some responsible persons in the well-defined scientific facts. And [again] some Islamic states are going to announce the start of the month Ramadan wrongly, as we are already accustomed to since the previous years, a result of disregard of the clear scientific facts.
Crescents, Calendars, and Mawaqeet Committee
Arab Union for Astronomy and Space Sciences (AUASS)
JAS representative who attended the Jordanian official meeting said that the
supreme judge said: "Since it's Ramadan tomorrow in Egypt and Saudi then it will
be Ramadan tomorrow in Jordan"! The crescent was not seen in Jordan, and they
didn't even care about that.
So far, the earliest sighting of the crescent was on 14
October 2004 from USA by ICOP member Mr. Jim Stamm.
Thursday 14 October 2004:
From the point of astronomical calculation, it is impossible that the hilal
can be seen from Indonesia Area. At Merauke (7:30 S 140:17E) or the
easternmost of Indonesia, the altitude of hilal at local sunset is 1.587 deg
and moonset lag = 9 minute and 10 seconds, Moon Age = 5.72 hrs. And at Banda
Aceh (5:35 N 95:20 E) or westernmost of Indonesia, the moon altitude at local
sunset is 2.77 deg., Moon age = 8.61 hrs and moon set lag = 14 m:11s. So,
impossible the hilal can be seen from Indonesia Archipelago (islands).
May I conclude that the "qa'idah" or the rule of "Wujudul Hilal": -
[ijtima' qablal ghurub (conjunction before sunset) and sunset before moonset,
eventhough the moon alt = 0 to 2 deg, the date should be changed], is still
dominant at the Ministry of Religion of the RI. Unfortunately."
On the next day, Thursday
(15/10/2004) I went to the observation site with other 10 JAS members and
friends in addition to some local people who lives in that area. We started
our telescopes from the Park mode (Which was aligned from the previous night)
at around 18:00 LT. We made sure that the alignment is accurate by moving the
telescopes to many stars in the sky, and every time we moved the telescope to
an object it was located exactly on the center of the eyepiece, we also made
sure that the focus is perfectly adjusted.
On 18:15 LT, the sun had set and we
started to look for the crescent from one of the telescope, while we were
taking pictures from the other telescope by a 300D Canon digital camera which
was attached to the other telescope. The sky of the western horizon was Partly
cloudy, and the sun disappeared behind the clouds before about one hour of the
sunset, Fortunately, when the Sun was approaching the western horizon, the sky
became clear and there was a strip of clear skies in the western horizon with
about 3 degrees above the horizon, so we were able to see the Sun during
sunset.
Despite the fact that the sky was clear in the area where the crescent
should be, No body was able to see the Crescent through the eyepiece of the
telescope!"
The Muslim Council of Montreal and UMSA are pleased to announce to the
Montreal Islamic community that the moon has been sighted on Thursday, Oct
14th, 2004. Therefore Ramadan will begin on Friday Oct. 15th, 2004. The M.C.M
and UMSA would like to take this opportunity to wish you all a Ramadan
Mubarak. May Allah make it easy for us and accept all our good deeds in this
holy month of Ramadan." Friday 15 October 2004:
Thursday 14 October 2004 :-
Friday 15 October 2004 :-
Saturday 16 October 2004 : -
To know about the accuracy of the astronomical calculations, then please click here
When to Observe ?
AUASS Official Statement
Saudi Will Look for the Crescent on Wednesday 13
October.
AUASS Comments on The Saudi Call for Observation on
Wednesday.
Shaban Waning Crescent Observation (New Global
Record)
Stamm Saw 6.4 Degrees Elongation
Crescent!
Old Moon Crescent Observability
===============================
October 13, 2004
Age of Moon at 06:16 LT = -14:23
Location = Tucson, Arizona (USA)
San Pedro Vista on Mt. Lemmon Hwy.
Longitude = 110.68 W
Latitude = 32.4 N
Elevation = 2210 meters
Temperature = 54 degrees Fahrenheit ?
Relative Humidity = 42 percent ?
Local moonrise at 5:46 a.m. (MST) 13 Oct. 2004
UT Time and Date of moonrise = 12:46 13 Oct. 2004
Local sunrise at 6:18 a.m. (MST) 13 Oct. 2004
UT Time and Date of moonrise = 13:18 13 Oct. 2004
Crescent first observed through 8” SC telescope:
Time = 6:09 a.m. (MST) 13:09 (UT)
Altitude = 2.2 degrees
Azimuth = 96.4 degrees
Elongation of the Moon from Sun = 6.5 degrees
Percent of surface that was lit = 0.32 percent
Final observation with telescope:
Time = 6:16 a.m. (MST) 13:16 (UT)
Altitude = 3.6 degrees
Azimuth = 97.3 degrees
Elongation of the Moon from Sun = 6.4 degrees
This attempt was to test Danjon’s Limit. The crescent was easily seen
in the field of my 55mm eyepiece when I looked 1 minute before the time
that it was supposed to be at the center. It had an arc of maybe 30
degrees. As I let it get to the center of the field, it seemed to
shrink substantially. This may have been an effect of focus. My
observing partner, John Polacheck could not see it at first. When I
tried to put it back in the part of the field where I first saw it, I
noticed that a speck of dirt on the eyepiece was bisecting the image.
I told John to look at the speck, and he readily saw the crescent, but
only about half as much as I could see. Again, I think this was an
effect of focus. We alternately watched it until 6:16 (LT), after
which we both would “think” we saw it, but couldn’t be positive. I
will be writing up a more formal report of this observation.
The Official Jordanian Meetings on 29
Sha'ban
Results of Observation
ICOP member, Mr. Kemal
Sehbajraktarevic said: Not seen. "Whole past week the sky over the Bosnia was totaly
cloudy with rain, therefore it was impossible even to try to see the Ramadan
Crescent."
New Moon Crescent Observability
===============================
October 14, 2004
Time from geocentric new at sunset = 22 hours 04 minutes
Location = Tucson, Arizona (USA)
Gates Pass
Longitude = 111.10 W
Latitude = 32.22 N
Elevation = 963 meters
Temperature = 79 degrees Fahrenheit
Relative Humidity = 13 percent
Atmospheric Pressure = 29.82 inches of mercury
Crescent first observed through 8” SC telescope:
Time = 6:08 p.m. (MST) 01:08 (UT)
Altitude = 1.9 degrees
Azimuth = 252.6 degrees
Elongation of the Moon from Sun = 11.5 degrees
Percent of surface that was lit = 1.0 percent
At 6:15 someone said they could see the crescent through binoculars,
and several other observers subsequently viewed the crescent with them.
The image was visible continuously through the C-8, and 8 observers
took turns watching until it set at a negative altitude. I did not
record any circumstances near the end of the observation, as I was
trying to connect with a phone call.
The following is the official statement of the Islamic Shura Council of North America,
which consists of the three major Islamic Organizations in North America:
1. Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)
2. Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA)
3. The Ministry of W.D.Mohammed
"Based on the reported Crescent Sighting from Austin, Texas, by two (2) witnesses,
the Shura Council of North America declares tomorrow, Friday 15 October 2004 CE
to be the first day of Ramadan 1425 AH.
RAMADAN KAREEM."
Dr.Mohib.N.Durrani
Consultant to:
Islamic Shura Council of North America
Islamic Society of North America
The OFFICIAL First Day in Different
Countries
The Accuracy of The Astronomical
Calculations
Related Links